The other day a blogger
who is fairly well-known in the indie makeup online world posted some
swatches of eyeshadows from a small, relatively unknown company. She
made some fairly benign
comments in the post about being unimpressed with the colours –
essentially that they were nice but basic – and she didn’t feel that the
‘full’ jars had much product in them, and therefore she would not make
any further purchases. As she generally does, the
blogger then posted the swatch post on Reddit. For most of a day there
were only one or two comments, and the post may have eventually
disappeared from my Reddit front page, but then the company owner showed
up, and all hell broke loose. There was a lot of
back and forth with the blogger and the business owner throwing
accusations at each other (which seemed to stem from a misunderstanding about the anonymity of Etsy reviews), and after a while ‘two’ loyal customers
(though judging by the identical spelling errors, it appears to have
been one) weighed in, hurling abuse at everyone while raving about
the super awesomeness of the products and how dare anyone not love
them. (Sidenote: This was actually the most entertaining part because
this person seemed to assume that everyone should know who she (the
customer) was and became quite irate when people said
they had no idea. I had never heard of her so I Googled – 23 followers
on Twitter. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a superstar makeup artist in
our midst.)
Although it did end up
getting out of hand in what is normally an extremely polite and
respectful community (on Reddit – I know, right!), it was an amusing
shit storm to watch while
it lasted, and the business owner revealed a lot more about herself and
her lack of professionalism than she probably ever meant to. I’m sure
I’m not the only person who decided after her first couple of comments
that she was a bit of a drama monger and probably
best avoided.
So I’ve been thinking
about this and some other things that have happened of late, and I
wonder at what point or for what reason people decide to take their
money elsewhere, when it
is the business owner/s rather than the product who are seen as sub-par
for whatever reason. I have a problem giving my money to someone I
don’t like. That someone could be an individual person like an Etsy
seller who wants to start a public brawl over some
really very mild criticism, or a large company like Gloria Jeans, which
has made financial donations to the Australian Christian Lobby, an ultra rightwing religious lobby group that wants us all back in the
1950s when being gay was considered a mental disorder
and women knew their place. In short, if I know something I don’t like
about whoever is behind a particular store or a product, I will not give
them my money. There is an element of hypocrisy there of course – I am
sure I’m handing money over to lots of big
companies who engage in all kinds of shenanigans, but I’m not aware of
them so I go about my merry way. I don’t go out of my way to find out
what’s going on in the background. Maybe I should, but that seems
exhausting, and there’s a small part of me that fears
I’d have nothing left to buy ever. I’m pretty judgemental and it
doesn’t take much to put me off. Sometimes I just wish I didn’t know so I
could keep happily shopping.
Case in point: Within
the last 12 months I have discovered that the owners of two indie
companies I had previously thought very highly of have some political views that
– well, frankly they are pretty gross, in my opinion. It’s no secret
that I am a bleeding-heart lefty and a borderline socialist when it
comes to looking after the whole of society, so when I see reams and
reams of ranting about gun rights (in the weeks after
Sandy Hook, no less) and how evil Obamacare is (along with memes
likening Obama to a monkey – super classy!), or someone speaking proudly
of the Confederate flag – as well known as the Southern Cross for its
problematic symbolism - then I’m not going to look
on that kindly. And I’m not American, so some people might just say
“Butt out,” but you know what – we are saturated with America these
days. I probably know more about American politics than I do about
Australian. Not only that, but to me wrong is wrong –
it doesn’t matter if it’s in the US, Australia, the UK, the Middle
East, or wherever. When it comes to opinion, let’s just say I’m
definitely not into cultural relativism.
So that was a very
long-winded way of saying that since discovering personal things about
the owners of companies I had previously liked a lot, I feel I can no
longer in good conscience
hand my money over to them. And in addition to that, if I get the
slightest whiff that a business owner is going to be one of those
dramariffic types that unfortunately the indie beauty world seems to
foster, then I don’t want a bar of them either.
Now, tell me how you
feel – would you buy from a big or small business whose personal
philosophies were anathema to you if you loved the products they
provided? Do you think I over-react
by taking my money and going elsewhere? It won’t change my mind if you
do, but you can say it. ;-)
Those types of review-then-argue incidents are all too common now. I think they say a fair bit about a decline in manners that the online world and its relative anonymity contribute to.
ReplyDeleteI'm a swinger. In the sense of, I won't buy products where I know and disagree with some of the background, however I would rarely bother to research each company I buy products from. For example, Temptalia posted a great piece on why she wouldn't review the NARS Guy Bourdin collection because of its themes re violence towards women. After I read it (and agreed with her points), I knew I wouldn't buy from that collection on principle. But I also buy a lot of make up from companies that I'm sure test on animals at some point, a practice I'm not wholly comfortable with. I've never really done any research in this area and I doubt I could be bothered.
I think people have their most important, core issues or personal experiences and stick to their guns on those. The rest kinda gets lost along the way or hidden and unresearched by consumers.
People don't seem to understand these days that even when you run your own business you still need to be professional. The customers are not your friends, and they should be able to give an honest opinion without being attacked. (And as you and I have discussed before, customers who review products OWE an honest opinion or what's the point.)
DeleteI'm the same as you - I try not to look too closely because it's tiring. But if I happen across something I dislike I generally can't ignore it, no matter how much I might love the products themselves.
I didn't know about the NARS collection thing - I must go read up on that!
You know I'm with you on this one. We discussed this same topic earlier this year, so I'm guessing one of those companies is the same one I started feeling icky buying from (which sucked because I really liked the product!). Like you, I don't try to seek out such information, but once I see it, the bell can't be unrung. I don't expect indie sellers to be superpeople and "ON" 24/7, they are real, fallible people, after all, but there are some things I just can't tolerate, mostly the things you have named, since we seem to be on the same page socio-politically. I imagine there may be some indies that harbor beliefs in opposition to my own, but they are so professional I would never get a whiff of it, so I can deal with that, with it being an "unknown." Faced with verbal or written proof, however, I just can't feel the same way about them again.
ReplyDeleteI get the same horrible feeling when family members post "yay guns" and "drug test welfare recipients" and "must be a liberal" type memes. I want so badly to post something like "hey, auntie or cousin so-and-so, you know you aren't just posting these things to a big empty void, right? You're actually actively insulting a family member you consider a "friend." " I could be passive aggressive and just post something asserting the opposite view on my page or just defriend them, but I don't think it would be worth the ensuing drama and I'm really not so great with conflict anyway. It bothers me that I feel stifled though while they can spout their ignorance to the high heavens. I try to ignore and am mostly successful, but then again, I'm not handing them money for their products and giving them my seal of approval. So yes, I'm going to take control over what I support when I can, how I can.
Oh. I ended up deleting my facebook so I could escape the ratbag element of the family members without creating drama! Then I started my account again a few months later and didn't tell anyone.
DeleteI agree, if I find out by chance a company or person who I'm involved with is an unethical, right wing douchebag I don't go back for more. But like you I don't go researching into it because really I don't want to find out that everything I like is supporting eeeeeevil.
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